<b>XII LOK SABHA DEBATES, <i> Session IV, (Budget) </i> </b>
XII LOK SABHA DEBATES, Session IV, (Budget) Monday, March 8 1999 /Phalguna 17, 1920 (Saka)


Type of Debate: GOVERNMENT BILLS
Title: Raised the issue of passing the 84th Constitutional Amendment Bill on women's reservation on the ocassion of International Women's Day.

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SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE (PANSKURA): Sir, today is 8th March, i.e., the International Women's Day. So, I believe that our Parliament, first of all, will extend its feelings of solidarity to the women all over the world who are fighting for the right causes.

Secondly, today a number of seminars, rallies and many things like that are being held all over India in which women are demanding many things, apart from recent demands for bringing down the prices of essential commodities, for stopping atrocities on minorities, for building strong national integrity by fighting communalism in different forms, etc. These rallies and seminars are raising the demand of passing the 84th Constitutional Amendment Bill for providing one-third reservation of seats for women in Lok Sabha and Legislative Assemblies.

Sir, I draw your attention and through you of the Government and Members of Parliament belonging to all political parties to the demand of the women all over the country to take up the same Bill in this very Session itself.

SHRI I.K. GUJRAL (JALANDHAR): Sir, the hon. lady Member has drawn attention rightly of the House to the 8th of March being an extremely important day in our national life. I want to create an impression positively that this is not the demand only of women of India. It is a demand of all democrats of India that the women must get their due in Parliament and Legislative Assemblies, i.e., 33 per cent reservation. The issue that my worthy friend has raised, I want to join my voice with that and I hope that that voice will go unanimously from this House that this matter deserves attention so far as women's empowerment is concerned. Women are playing very vital role in our national life. Therefore, we are all for it and we stand with them. Women must be made to play a role in our national life and political life.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, Shrimati Krishna Bose will speak.

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I call Shrimati Krishna Bose to speak.

SHRIMATI KRISHNA BOSE : Mr. Deputy-Speaker, may I ask my male colleague to hear me?..(Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: She has given notice.

SHRIMATI KRISHNA BOSE : Mr. Deputy-Speaker, first of all, I want all my male colleagues to cooperate to at least listen to what I have to say. Shri Gujral has said that this Parliament and all democrats are supporting us but I am sorry to say that I feel that this Parliament is a male club and I feel like an unwanted intruder in a male club. I have that feeling as I stand here. I cannot even speak here. May I speak, Sir? Well, that is my feeling. ...(Interruptions)

SHRI BUTA SINGH (JALORE): Sir, she has to withdraw those words. You cannot allow those words to go on record...(Interruptions)

SHRIMATI KRISHNA BOSE : OK. I am sorry. Shall I now say what I have to say?..(Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please let me know what are the words which she has used.

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Mulayam Singh Yadav, kindly listen to me. Please sit down.

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SHRI BUTA SINGH : Sir, this is disgrace and disrespect to the Parliament...(Interruptions)

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record.

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please take your seats.

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SHRIMATI KRISHNA BOSE : How can I say anything? If nobody is listening to me, then I cannot say anything....(Interruptions)

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Rawale, let her be heard.

SHRIMATI KRISHNA BOSE : I want to draw the attention of the House to one or two important points. Today is Women's Day, as Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee has already said.

I know that the Government is considering a National Policy for Women which is under consideration of the Cabinet for quite sometime. Today, I would demand to know what they want to do with it. This is my first point.

Secondly, three years back, I stood here, in the same place, and asked the then Prime Minister, Shri Deve Gowda as to when the Bill for giving 33 per cent reservation to women will come and be passed.

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* Not Recorded.

The Prime Minister promised that in that very Session itself, in early 1996, it would be passed. Now, three years have passed. Much water has flown down the Ganges. We have seen Prime Ministers coming and going. The people have elected a new Lok Sabha. I want to know when this amendment is coming and when shall we have our proper place in the policy-making arena. I tell this because we feel extremely neglected. I have expressed my feeling although it was strong. But the way people were behaving, I had to say that I felt like an unwanted person...(Interruptions) I want to know the reaction of the Government on these two counts. What is happening to the National Policy for Women and what is happening to the Amendment which was due to be passed already?

Thank you.

PROF. A.K. PREMAJAM (BADAGARA): Sir, I have give notice to raise an important issue...(Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I will come back to you.

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Will you please resume your seat?

... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Gopal, I have called him.

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : I wholly endorse what Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee has said on the floor of the House. This is an important day. There are many many issues concerning women. And it needs the support of the entire country. Obviously, the House, representing the country, should express its views very articulately and very seriously and action should be taken.

With regard to the Reservation Bill, we know that different parties have different views. I am entitled to hold my view that it should be passed as it is framed. Let the parties, respectively, express their views. The House will have to take a decision at the appropriate time. Therefore, this is not the occasion. I am not trying here to take the House in saying why it should be passed as it is.

The very important issue today is that the question of our women in this country is very important as also the question of parliamentary democracy in this country. What has happened in Bihar? What action was taken by this Government? The Proclamation was brought here with great bravado and with great gusto, it was passed. What was not represented? It represents the views of the people of this country as if under the Constitution, the Rajya Sabha has no relevance. Therefore, today, knowing all the time that they have no majority in the House - in Rajya Sabha, they cannot get it passed - they have been spreading all sorts of feelers and going to court for taking action. Even the Prime Minister had to go and invite the Leader of the Congress Party. ... (Interruptions) I have a right to say.

SHRI RAM NAIK : Sir, What is this?......(Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : This Government has run away like a cringing coward (Interruptions)

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SHRI RAM NAIK: Does it pertain to the issues of women? We never objected to speaking relevantly. ... (Interruptions) He has to confine himself to the subject. ... (Interruptions) How can he transgress the subject? ... (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Somnathji, please speak on the subject.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE :

T Therefore, it was a black day for the parliamentary democracy in this country. ... (Interruptions)

SHRI RAM NAIK: Sir, what is this? ... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Sir, this Government has run away. We want to condemn the anti-democratic attitude of this Government. ... (Interruptions) They should resign if they have any prestige. ... (Interruptions)


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