XI LOK SABHA DEBATES, Session V (Monsoon)

XI LOK SABHA DEBATES, Session V (Monsoon) 
XI LOK SABHA DEBATES, Session V (Monsoon) Tuesday, August 12/Shravana 21, 1919 (Saka)

Type of Debate: BUDGET (GENERAL)
Title: Demands for Supplementary Grants-General,1997-98. (Not Concluded) TEXT : 16.08 hrs.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Motions moved:

"That the respective supplementary sums not exceeding the amounts on Revenue Accounts and Capital Accounts shown in the third column of the Order Paper be granted to the President out of the Consolidated Fund of India to defray the charges that will come in course of payment during the year ending 31st day of March, 1998 in respect of the following demands entered in the second column thereof: 2, 4 to 6, 9 to 11, 14, 15, 22, 23, 26, 28, 34, 35, 38, 43, 46, 47, 50, 52, 54, 55, 57 to 59, 62, 66, 67, 70, 74, 77, 78, 80, 81, 83, 86, 88, 89, 98 to 102."

Now, we move on to the next item - Discussion and voting on the Supplementary Demands for Grants (General) for 1997-98.

The time allotted is two hours. The hon. Members should know that the Bill is to be sent to the Rajya Sabha.

THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SRIKANTA JENA): By six p.m. we can complete this Bill.

MR. CHAIRMAN: I would request the hon. Members to speak on the Supplementary Demand for Grants. I would not have objected but for the paucity of time. The Members should only refer to certain grants which are there in the Budget.

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PROF. P.J. KURIEN (MAVELIKARA): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I thank you for giving me an opportunity to participate in the discussion.

I rise to support the Demands for Supplementary Grants (General) presented by the hon. Minister of Finance. It is neither because I am in full agreement with whatever he has put in the Supplementary Demands for Grants nor because I am in agreement with whatever he is doing. But it is my bounden duty to obey the whip of the party and support the Government to keep it going. Therefore, I am supporting it. (Interruptions).

The hon. Minister of Finance has presented a dream Budget and now also the Demands for Supplementary Grants. But what is the impact of the Budget on the economy? Is the economy giving a rosy picture?

The other day, I read in the newspapers, that the hon. Minister of Finance had given a statement where he was pulling up the industrialists. He was asking the industrialists to respond to the Budget proposals and he was admonishing them for not coming up to his expectation. The reason is very simple that industrial production has declined.

In 1991 when Shri P.V. Narasimha Rao took over as the Prime Minister of this country, the industrial production was negative. It was minus one and within a couple of years, we brought it to about ten per cent.

That rate of growth is not maintained. That rate of growth is on the decline. This has been admitted by the Finance Minister himself. What is the reason?

As regards inflation, yes, it has come down to five per cent. But is it reflected in the markets? We do not see the price of any item, including the consumer items, going down in the markets. The retail markets - I do not know about the wholesale markets - always shows upward trend. Is there a real decline in the inflation, as the Government statistics are giving out? What is the reason that it is not reflected in the markets? If that is not reflected in the markets, that is the incompetency and inefficiency of this Government. I want the Finance Minister to take note of that.

What about exports? Exports were growing at 20 per cent in dollar terms during Shri Narasimha Rao's time and now the export growth has come down. It is there in the newspapers. I am not having the data but I would like the Finance Minister to tell this House whether the export is growing up. I would say that the rate of export growth has come down and is coming down.

What is the position of balance of payments? The balance of payments position has again become more adverse and more negative. What is the reason for that? Has the foreign debt declined? It is again on the increase. Then, which are the economic indicator by which you can say that the strength of the economy is increasing? I would like to be enlightened by the Finance minister on this.

What about employment generation? Yes, there was a time when Budgets was used for investment for employment generation. Now Budgets are not used for that purpose. Unfortunately, it is used only for retrenchment. But where is the investment, whether from within or from abroad, by which the number of employment opportunities have increased? I would like to know from the Finance Minister that in the last one year, what is the total investment in this country, whether from abroad or from within? I have no hesitation in welcoming the investment from abroad. Let it be from anybody. But what is the total investment whereby the number of employment opportunities have increased? What is the total number of employment opportunities that have been generated? In fact, unemployment is increasing and there is no generation of new employment. At least by my experience in Kerala, I have no doubt - and all my hon. friends from Kerala will agree with me - that unemployment is on the increase. Where is the programme for the Government for tackling this unemployment? I see nothing in the Budget, except some pious hope that investment will come from abroad and will help us. Where is that, I do not know.

As regards the infrastructure development, the Government is not investing in the infrastructure sector. And where is the money for that? Is there any investment in the infrastructure sector? Even after liberalisation in the last five years, the investment in the infrastructure sector is not as was anticipated. There may be something here and there but not to the tune of the requirement of this huge country where there is acute power shortage and shortage in every sector of infrastructure. Where is the Action Plan for the Finance Ministry to tackle these problems? This is what I would like to know. Therefore, as far as I see, almost all the indicators are giving a disturbing signal with regard to the growth of the economy.

At the same time, what is the damage that we are doing? We had a strong small-scale sector.

It was unique for our country. All the developing countries appreciated the small scale sector that we have developed. Forty per cent of our export was met by the small scale sector. Today the small scale sector is suffering. Why is it so? The Finance Ministry is trying to de-reserve it. There is a reservation for the small scale sector. I do not know the number; but at least quite a large number of industries which are to be in the small scale sector, cottage and village industries have been reserved for the small scale sector only with an investment limit of Rs. 75 lakh or something like that. What is the attempt of the Government? It is to de-reserve it. When I was the Industries Minister for some time, when such an attempt was there, I resisted it. I resisted it till I was there. Now I understand that the limit has been raised and the attempt is to de-reserve it. Under whose influence it is being done? I would ask my Left friends, those who oppose the I.M.F. dictates, whether they agree to this. Why do you not fight it out? ...(Interruptions)

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