XI LOK SABHA DEBATES, Session IV (Budget) XI LOK SABHA DEBATES, Session IV (Budget) Thursday, March 20, 1997 / Phalguna 29, 1918 (Saka)
Type of Debate: BUDGET (GENERAL)
Title: Appropriation (Vote on Account) Bill,1997. Bill Introduced Motion for Consideration TEXT : 1945 hoursTHE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND MINISTER OF COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): Sir, I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide for the withdrawal of certain sums from and out of the Consolidated Fund of India for the services of a part of the financial year 1997-98.
SHRI RAM NAIK (MUMBAI NORTH): I have given a notice for it.
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MR. CHAIRMAN (COL. RAO RAM SINGH): Shri Ram Naik, let the Bill be introduced first. Then you will get the opportunity.
SHRI RAM NAIK (MUMBAI NORTH): He has introduced the Bill.
MR. CHAIRMAN: No. Just give me a minute.
The question is:
"That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to provide for the withdrawal of certain sums from and out of the Consolidated Fund of India for the services of a part of the financial year 1997-98".
The motion was adopted.
SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I introduce the Bill.
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SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I beg to move:
"That the Bill to provide for the withdrawal of certain sums from and out of the Consolidated Fund of India for the services of a part of the financial year 1997-98, be taken into consideration."
MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved:
"That the Bill to provide for the withdrawal of certain sums from and out of the Consolidated Fund of India for the services of a part of the financial year 1997-98, be taken into consideration."
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SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Sir, no speech is really possible at this stage. When my learned friend told me that he wished to just mention three points, I said I would not object. But if he is making a speech, then it is my duty to bring it to your notice a ruling given by the Speaker, in March, 1951, which stood the test of time. At the time of Vote on Account, no speeches can be made. This is a ruling given by the Speaker in March, 1951. That is the ruling as in force today. If the hon. Member only wants to mention two, three items, I have no objection.
MR. CHAIRMAN: He has clarified. I think he will take about three to four minutes.
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SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Because nobody had objected.
SHRI RAM NAIK (MUMBAI NORTH): The entire House knows. Probably you were not attending the House.
SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Nobody knew this ruling.
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MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Ram Naik, you make your submission.
SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I told you that I would deal with this in the Finance Bill.
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SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I told you; I told everybody. I started by saying that.
SHRI RAM NAIK (MUMBAI NORTH): No, you tell the House.
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SHRI P.C. CHACKO (MUKUNDAPURAM): There are a number of other items. Why do you mention only these three items?. SHRI RAM NAIK (MUMBAI NORTH): You can raise; I have no objection.
SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I have already said that all tax matters will be attended to during the recess and I will come at the time of Finance Bill and deal with it. I have invited all of you to come and meet me with specific cases. Shrimati Mahajan has already met me in this case.
MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is:-
"That the Bill to provide for the withdrawal of certain sums from and out of the Consolidated Fund of India for the services of a part of the financial year 1997-98, be taken into consideration."
The motion was adopted.
MR. CHAIRMAN: The House will now take up clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill.
The question is:
"That clauses 2 to 4 stand part of the Bill."
The motion was adopted.
Clauses 2 to 4 were added to the Bill.
The Schedule was added to the Bill.
Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and the Title were added to the Bill.
SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I beg to move:
"That the Bill be passed."
MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is:
"That the Bill be passed."
The motion was adopted.
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