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SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN (COOCHBEHAR):  Mr.  Chairman, Sir, thank you for  giving
me the  chance.  The Resolution moved by my friend, Shri Jagat Vir Singh Drona
generally seems to be very innocent Resolution because it is the  question  of
illegal immigrants.   Nobody prefers that some illegal persons should enter in
our country and we shall have to bear the economic and political burdens.

	But I have gone through the political version of the Mover that he has
made here and of the other Members sitting opposite, my BJP friends  and  Shiv
Sena friends.  From this, it is very clear to me that through this Resolution,
they would  like  to  hit  somewhere  else.    It is not illegal immigrants of
general nature, not of Nepalis, not of Bhutanese, not of Hindus but they would
like to mention particularly the Muslims who have come to  this  place.    Mr.
Chaman Lalji, I think you have heard the name of Dr.  Shyama Prasad Mukherjee.
That is a good occasion for me to speaker here about him.

SHRI CHAMAN LAL GUPTA (UDHAMPUR):





¸ÉÒ SɨÉxÉ ±ÉÉ±É MÉÖ{iÉ :  Eò¶¨ÉÒ®ú EòÒ VÉä±É ¨ÉäÆ ®úÉ´ÉÒ ºÉä ±ÉäEò®ú ¨ÉèÆ =xÉEòä ºÉÉlÉ ½þÒ MɪÉÉ lÉÉ*


SHRI AMAR  ROY  PRADHAN  :  They may be Bihari Muslims, Bengali Muslims, those
who are coming to India and for that purpose, they  are  not  illegal.    They
might have  had  legal  passports; They may be Indian Muslims.  Even then, you
are claiming that they are Bangladeshis.  What has  happened  in  Maharashtra;
what has happened  in  Bombay, now Mumbai?  What has happened in Nagpur?  What
has happened in UP in your regime?  You branded them as illegal immigrants.

	Let us go  back to the 1950s.  Here, in this august House, Dr.  Shyama
Prasad Mukherjee asked Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, the then Prime Minister:  What
will happen to those people who stay  in  Pakistan;  whether  they  will  lose
everything though  we have got kith and kin relations with them?  The question
was asked by Dr.  Shyama Prasad Mukherjee.  After all this, what is the  reply
of the  then  Prime  Minister,  Pandit  Jawaharlal Nehru?  He said, due to the
partition, those who are in the other side of the country,  in  Pakistan,  are
our brothers  and sisters; they are our kith and kin.  They have got the right
to come over to India.  Do you like to forget all  these  things?    You  have
forgotten all  these  things.    Now  you  would like to proceed only with the
communal slogan.  Do not forget that today you are in  BJP;  before  that  you
were in Jan Sangh.

Before that they were Hindu  Mahasabhai.    They  were  the  people  who  were
responsible for  India's  partition.    It  is not only Muslim League but also
Hindu Mahasabha which was responsible for India's partition.  It is Shri  Atal
Bihari Vajpayee and Shri Advani...  (Interruptions)

SHRI JAGAT VIR SINGH DRONA :  Sir, I have a point of order.  He has taken  the
name of a person who is not a Member of this House.

MR.  CHAIRMAN :    Mr.  Pradhan, you should not refer to a person who is not a
Member of this House.

SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN :  I was just referring to them.

MR.  CHAIRMAN:  No, you cannot do that.

SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN :  All right, Sir, I withdraw that.

SHRI JAGAT VIR SINGH DRONA (KANPUR):





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Ênù±ÉÉ<B ÊEò =ºÉ ºÉ¨ÉªÉ <x½þÉäÆxÉä EªÉÉ ÊEòªÉÉ lÉÉ * EªÉÉ ´É½þ ®úɹ]Å Eòä ʽþiÉ ¨ÉäÆ lÉÉ * ...
(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ)


SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN :  Sir, they cannot deny it that they  were  responsible
for the  partition  of  India.  At the time of partition of Indis,  who  have  
mingled up here in India and that is the culture of India.
We believe in Swami Vivekananda.

	I would like to state what Swami Vivekananda said.  He said:

        
        "Jibe daya kare jai jan

        Sai jan sabechche Iswar"






VÉÉä VÉÒ´ÉÉäÆ {É®ú nùªÉÉ Eò®úiÉÉ ½þè, ´É½þ EòÉèxÉ ½þè ?  EªÉÉ ´É½þ {ªÉÚ{É±É ½þè ?  ´É½þÒ MÉÉèb÷ ½þè * VÉÉä nùÒxÉ
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MR.  CHAIRMAN:  Please conclude now.


SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN :  The Muslim League and the Hindu Mahasabha, both  were
responsible for the partition, they know it.

	Regarding the  illegal  migrants,  what  is  the  position?    In this
connection I would like to say that we have become enemies to each other.  The
fundamentalism is going up because of the activities of the Muslim League  and
the Hindu fanatics.

18.00 hrs.

	So, Sir, my earnest request is that ...(Interruptions)

KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE :  Sir, now the time is 6 p.m.  ...(Interruptions)

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF  TOURISM  (SHRI  SRIKANT
JENA):  Mr.      Chairman,   Sir,  he  can  continue  his  speech  next  time.
...(Interruptions)

MR.  CHAIRMAN:  Shri Amar Roy Pradhan, are you concluding your speech now?

SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN :  No, Sir.  Please give me ten more minutes.

MR.  CHAIRMAN:  Shri Amar Roy Pradhan, you can continue your speech next time.

	Now the House stands adjourned to meet again at 11 a.m.    on  Monday,
May 12, 1997.

18.01 hrs


 The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven of the Clock on

 Monday, May 12, 1997/Vaisakha 22, 1919 (Saka).

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