Shri Nitish Kumar spoke about new lines, doubling, gauge conversion and about the Ganga bridge. I already responded to his queries. Luckily, the Prime Minister is presentt here; the Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission and the Finance Minister are also present. The problem is with the type of budglary support that is available to us, how much ca we do? On one side, you do no want me to increases fare and freight charges. On the other side, you want me to do everything, How can there be a compromise. Please try to understand the problem. We have not neglected anyone or any area. We know that we have given to Orissa. We also, know that the State of Orissa gives us a lot of retains. What ever projects we are having on haud, we continue with them In addition, in backward areas, wherever there is metregauge line and where gauge conversion is essential, we have included all such projects. I have already stated about these details in my reply, If they have not heard me, as suggested by you, I am prepared to send them the replies. Often, I here a lot of com- plaints that their letters are not a acknowledged. We have the computerised system,where by every letter from a Member of Parliament is acknowledged and reply seut. We are keeping these letters in tact.

If you want,we will send copies. Let me say there Sir that if at all have to reply all the letters, I will not be able to look into any administrative files expect sending letters in hundreds and thousands.

These letters cover no only development. They also raise queries and requests about catering stalls, trans-

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fers, postings and such other little little things. Every letter is being acknowledged! Still , I am accused that I am not responding to them. If the Members whish so, I can produce the computerised copies of the letters and demonstrate to them.

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: We did not complain.

SHRI JAFFER SHARIEF:Whoever may have said it. I am not referring to you. Shri Jena spoke about the Kurda Olangir line..(Interrutpiosn) Nitishji is very active and he has a fine sense of humour. But this is not the time for his jokes. we have been working through (jut the night. He has als been present all thorugh. He regulated the House also from the Chair in an able fashion.

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So, I complaint him. I would also like to request him to help us to reguIrter the proceedings of the House.

Shri Jana spoke about Kurda balandir. Sir, the way yesterday Members belonging to the State of Orissa expressed their sentiments about the problems being faced by this tribal and backward area, it is inhumance if I do not take note of it. I have taken nte of it'. It is not that I an do any thing on my own. The Planning Commission has not approved it. I will have to go back to the Planning Commission justifying this request., Fotrtunrtelyy, the Minister is present here and he is listaainign to the deabte. I am sruehe will sympathise with them.

Vajpayee ji spoke about the phasing out of loco sheds as diesel locomotive are ecoming. His doubt is that as a result of this the workers will get displaced. I am glad to inform the hon. Member that no worker is going to be affected on account of phasing out of the locomotives. They will be readjusted either at the same place or at the place of their own choice. There is no question of anybody being retranched. We are more sympathic to the workers. These people shout but we people always help them.

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SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (Bolpur): Sir, it is not proper to address 'these people'and'we people'

SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF: On of the hon. Members mentioned about Guwahati-Bibrugarh line I would like to saythat work on this line is in progess. Right from they verha begining the Congress Governments have gien a lot of importance to the North-Eastern States. That importantce is being given to them even today. In no way we are diverting our atetniton from these States. We know the importance from these north Eastern States and we know their problems also.

SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN(Cooch Behar) Mr. Minister you will appeciate that major Ecxpress Trains in that area runst the speed of 30 Km per hour to 40 Kaper hours.

SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIF; The proboems is their is Bihar because of th chain pulling and becuase they are not punctual. So, what can you do? You leave Bihar and then you will reach earlier.

Shri Cahtterjee spoke about Anna Chettigarr. I assure him that I will have a look into it.

Sir, as directed by you it will be any endeavour to write back to all the hon. Members and give replies to the points which they have riased either through the out nations or wile participating in the discussions. I assures that I will be writing to the individually.

In the past there was no practice of members of Parliament discussing with the Railway Officers abt the problem. After I assumed the members charge I directed the Railways Administration to have meeting with he Members of parliament at the Divisional Railway Manger, at the level of General Manager and at our level. There are inine consultative Committee meetings.

The formal consultrtive Committee has three groups. The railways Minister is one

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such Ministry which has allowed the Consultative Committee to be open.

Mr. Speaker, you are introducing the Committee system now but we have long back allowed the Consultiative Committee to be open and go into the entire functioning of the Railways. I am guided by them. I am educated by them. I need their support, not for me but for me but for the development of the system.

The fare which you pay for traveling by train is not like the bus-fare or Air-fare which is meant only for he journey. The rail fare is both for the journey and for the development which is foremost for the economic development of the country. (Interruptions)" MR. SPEAKER: The question is:

'That the Bill to authorise payment and appropriation of certain sums from and out of the Consolidated Fund of India for the services of the Financial year 1993-94 for the purposes of Railways, be taken into consideration."

The motion was adopted

MR. SPEAKER: The House will now take up Clause-by-Clause-

consideration of the Bill.

The Question is:

"That Clauses 2 and 3 stand part of the Bill. '

The motion was adopted.

Clause 2 and 3 were added to the Bill.

MR. SPEAKER: The question is:

"That the schedule clause 1, the Enacting formula and the long title stand part of the Bill.

The motion was adopted

The Schedule, Clause 1, the Eancting Formula and the long Tilte were added to the Bill.

509 Appropriation (Rlys.)

SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF: I beg to move:

"That the Bill be passed.'

MR. SPEAKER: The question is:

"That the Bill be passed."

The motion was adopted.

17.06 hrs.

APPROPRIATION(RAILWAYS) NO.2 BILLY 1993*

[English]

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF): I beg to move for leve to introduce a Bill to authorise payment and appropriation of certain further sums from and out of the Consolidated Fund of India for the services of the financial year 1992-93 for the purpose of Railways.

MR. SPEAKER: The question is:

"That leave beg ranted to introduce a Bill to authorise payment and appropriation of certain further Sumes from and out of the Consolidated Fund of India for the Services of the financial year 1992-93 for the purposes of Railways. " The Motion was adopted.

SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIF: I introduce the Bill.

SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF: I beg to move:**

"That the Bill o authorise payment and appopriaon of certain further sums from and out of the Consolidated Fund of India for the services of the financial year 1992-93 for the purpose of Railways, be taken into consideration, "

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MR. SPEAKER: The question is:

"That the Bill to authorise payment and appropriation of certain further sums from and out of the consolidated Fund of India for the services of the financial year 1992-93 for the purposes of Railways, be taken into consideration. " The motion was adopted.

MR. SPEAKER: The House will now take up Clause-by Clause

consideration of the Bill.

The question is:

"That clauses 2 and 3 stand part of the Bill."

The Motion was adopted.

Clause 2 and 3 were added to the Bill.

MR. SPEAKER: The Question is

"That the schedule, clause I, the Enacing formula and the long Title Shoud parst of the Bill

The motor was adopted

The Schedule, Clause I, the Enacting Formula and the long Title were added to the Bill.

SHRI C.K. JAFFER SHARIEF: I beg to move:

"That the Bill be passed." (Interruptions)

SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): Since he has not accepted any of our demands and particularly the reinstatement of dismissed employees and he has not considered it sympathetically, therefore, we cannot participate in this.

* Published in Gazette of India, Extra ordinary, Part 11, Section 2, dated 31-3-1993.** Introduced/Moved with the recomendation of the president

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SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (Bolpur): In protest against his reply, we are walking out.

17.08 hrs.

At this Stage, Shri Somnath Chatterjee and Some other hon Members left the House

(interruptions)

[Translation]

SHRI NITISH KUMAR (Barh): Mr Speaker, Sir we have not received reply to any of the points raised by us He has been ignoring us therefore, we also stage a walkout.

17.09 hrs

A this stage Shri Nitihs Kumar and Some hon. Members left the House

MR SPEAKER: The question is:

"That the Bill be passed"

The Motion was adopted

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